From the Sunday Talk Shows, there were three standout topics that I found interesting and worth commenting on.
Health Care
On health care, the This Week debate was better than the bland leading the bland over at Meet The Press.
Basically, Ben Nelson continued his Useless Tour 2009, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz was creamed, and Senator Tom Coburn didn’t sound crazy. The DWS moment was something that Democrats are going to have to pay attention to because if they respond like DWS they’re going to make life more difficult for themselves than it needs to be.
First, Tom Coburn says something that sounds eminently reasonable,
“The — the third point that I would say is we can fix all these problems, but we have a government-centered approach that is already failing instead of a patient-centered approach. And we ought to be concerned about patients, not the government. And — and there’s 11 studies out as of this morning that said both the House bill and the Senate bill will raise premiums, not lower them. There’s — that includes the Joint Tax Committee and the Congressional Budget Office, as well as nine other independent analyses.”
After the fluff about a patient-centered approach, he reveals the most deadly Republican talking point of the next few weeks, studies show that both bills will raise premiums (unsaid but also taxes/penalties).
To which DWS responds,
There — there are differences of opinion as to whether or not the Congressional Budget analysis is correct on — on the increase in premiums. But the important thing here is that I hope we can all agree that we have to get rid of the profit-driven, insurance company-driven health insurance system that we have, where it’s insurance company bureaucrats, Senator Coburn, that are getting in between patients and their doctors.
To suggest that this bill will put government in between patients and their doctors is really disingenuous…
Now, I have my own issues with what she’s saying, namely that Republicans aren’t talking about rationing but public rationing as opposed to private rationing and there is, in fact, a difference. However, her attempt to nullify the impact of the study results by saying people have a difference of opinions on whether CBO is correct is a losing battle. Whether she’s right or wrong it looks over-political, like cherry-picking data to push policy.
Coburn’s response is good,
…private insurance denial rate is. Now, think about that. Medicare’s denial rate on claims is twice — it’s 6.5 percent. The average insurance is 3.5 percent. I — look, I’ve dealt with the insurance industry. I know how bad they can be. I don’t want to eliminate them; I want to make them transparent and accountable.
If this were a debate getting play outside of Sunday morning, you’d have an effective one-two, your costs will go up and government will be no better than your insurer.
Then…DWS and Marsha Blackburn get into it over the new mammogram screening suggested guidelines.
On the House Floor, Rep. Wasserman-Schultz said, “This is an independent task force. It’s not the government.”
Of course, she’s correct that the task force is independent, however, when its website is ahrq.gov, it makes it hard to say, “it’s not the government,” with any degree of believability.
In the This Week debate, Rep Blackburn starts her point,
And, George, this is exactly how it happens. If you go to page 1,296 of the House bill, the engrossed copy, and you began to read in title three of that bill, on preventive and wellness services, and you get down to section 2301, this is what happens. In section 3131 of that bill, it changes the Preventive Services Task Force to the Clinical Preventive Services Task Force.
Then, you go back and you see that that task force on preventive clinical services is tasked with rating A, B, C, D, or I all preventive services. Then you go back into section 222 of the bill…
(CROSSTALK)
BLACKBURN: Yes, I have read this bill. And that indicates what would be paid or covered. And this is where the actual link comes, and I’ll read it for you. In section 2301, it says, “All recommendations of the Preventive Services Task Force” — that’s the group that did the mammograms — “and the Task Force on Community Preventive Services, as in existence on the day before the date of the enactment of this act, shall be considered to be recommendations of the Task Force on Clinical Preventive Services.”
Then she and DWS get into whether Republicans are politicizing breast cancer, after which DWS goes from credibile to desperate in about 15 seconds,
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: As a breast cancer survivor, I came out against these — these recommendations. Every major cancer organization has come out against these recommendations. The task force language in that bill actually makes sure that prevention — preventive services like mammograms and colonoscopies and other cancer screenings would be free. The task force recommendations — the language in the bill…
(CROSSTALK)
STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, Debbie, let me — let me clarify this…
(CROSSTALK)
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: … that even more women would get access to…
(CROSSTALK)
STEPHANOPOULOS: Excuse me for a second. That — that is true. But let me clarify a little bit, because under the — the bill — and we have — we have the language, as well. It says that a group health plan and health insurance issuer offering the group (ph) shall provide coverage, but only under — if the Preventive Services Task Force rates it as an A or B.
BLACKBURN: That’s right.
STEPHANOPOULOS: And, actually, under the — under the task force, they said that these mammograms for women 40 to 50 is rated C. So they actually wouldn’t be covered. So you have a great expansion for a broad part of the population, but actually, these guidelines would be controlling for ages 40 or 50.
(CROSSTALK)
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: … task force’s recommendations are simply recommendations. They…
BLACKBURN: No.
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: They aren’t controlling.
COBURN: As a physician who’s been…
(CROSSTALK)
WASSERMAN SCHULTZ: They aren’t going to be — they aren’t going to be binding. They’re recommendations.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, but the language here says they…
at which point G.S. loses control and Tom Coburn steps in like a sensible person,
COBURN: Here’s the question. Here’s the question we ought to be asking. Do these recommendations make sense from a cost standpoint? Absolutely, from a cost standpoint, they’re right. You look at the statistical analysis, they make sense.
From a patient standpoint, they’re atrocious. And that’s the problem with a bureaucracy stepping between a physician and their patient.
Then the funniest thing of the show happens. G.S. asks Ben Nelson to wade in and Senator Nelson goes off about big government and everybody wonders when that uncle guy got elected to the United States Senate.
Why any of this matters is that if the next two weeks mirror this debate, it’ll make HCR even more toxic than it is. DWS was put in the position of almost ridiculing the guidelines – which make good medical and scientific sense – and making the point that nobody wants made in the capital or outside of it. That political considerations like the war on cancer, will impact or override independent recommendations from medical experts gutting whatever lip service is given to cost control or they won’t and Congress will ineptly encourage raging against perceived slights rather than providing leadership on issues.
You also have Republicans saying this is a circus, we’re not improving the system, we’re making it cost more, and cost control is a joke. Which, for now, are all the not-crazy, right points that have resonance with a skittish populace.
DWS was right about one thing, the recommendations are not mandates, as Blackburn was saying, they aren’t binding. She was wrong, however, in insinuating that they were harmless recommendations with no effect. As Stephanopoulos points out they have a huge effect on determining what will and won’t be paid for. So the difference between not providing mammograms for women under 50 and providing them unsubsidized may be mostly rhetorical.
Maybe she was being honest here or trying to build some rhetorical momentum, I don’t know but a few seconds later, DWS waded in with this comment:
We have to make sure that we’re not forgetting about the people. And that’s what the task force forgot about this week, is that we’re not thinking about big, amorphous blobs of — of people. Making — these recommendations say that we can trade one life to save the angst and anxiety in a — a larger group of women, and that’s totally inappropriate, but that’s also why major experts, medical experts, the cancer society, the colon foundation all came out against this, and that won’t be…
Of course, that wasn’t the point the of the task force, they weren’t acting inappropriately at all and she just threw and independent panel of experts under the bus because their recommendations weren’t what she thought they should be and perhaps counter-intuitive. That she highlights the response of interest groups and part of a divided medical community illustrates just how political medical recommendations and advice is and will continue to be so as long as people associate medical advice with what they think the government should or should not pay for.
Frankly, more than anything, this episode has done more to convince me that we’re on the wrong track for reform and – if it weren’t for the damned political consequences – probably start over.